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Günther Frager

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Günther Frager (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · recent activity · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth) (Activity: Talk Commons DR)

Scheduled to end: 21:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

After some encouraging comments from Yann and The Squirrel Conspiracy, and some reflection of my side I decided to apply for adminship. I roughly started collaborating in Commons 18 months ago after reporting some copyvios that I found while patrolling eswiki. While trying to upload old photos I was confused by URAA and other rules that lead me to the rabbit hole of learning copyright laws. I started more than 1.400 DRs and an uncountable number of SDs. I'm aware of the most important copyright issues like de minimis, freedom of panorama, URAA, etc, but I'm not an expert on specific legislation. I have a good grasp of Argentine law, Spanish law, German law with its weird rules on FoP, French law (WWII extensions, 50 years at URAA-time) and I can dig into US restorations, but I'm mostly clueless on Middle-East, African or Asian specific copyright laws. Thus, I will likely stick to tasks where I have confidence, e.g. closing FoP cases, and avoid controversial ones like scope-related DRs or user problems. The admin flag will also allow me to see deleted files while participating on undeletion requests. Günther Frager (talk) 21:37, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Votes

•  Support Has the right temperament, trustworthy enough for the mop. Abzeronow (talk) 22:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Queen of Hearts (talk) 23:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Support --Krd 07:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Gbawden (talk) 08:38, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Support --Yann (talk) 08:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Comments

• Could you please add the language(s) you speak on your user page using Commons:Babel? Thanks, Yann (talk) 08:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Modern primat

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Modern_primat (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · recent activity · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth) (Activity: Talk Commons DR)

Scheduled to end: 19:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Merhaba! Sayın Commons topluluğu; İşte, bugün, burada hizmetli olmak için başvuruyorum. Bu başvuruyu kendi dilimde yapmamın sebebi Commons'un çok dilli oluşudur. Madem öyle, bu bir ilk olsun. Önceki yüzlerce başvuru arasından bu ilk mi değil mi kontrol etmedim açıkçası.

Gelelim neden hizmetli olmam gerektiğine... Öncelikle, hiçbir vikide yeteri kadar hizmetli yoktur, olmayacak. Commons Wikimedia'da daha fazla hizmetli her zaman iyidir. Benim bu duruma özel olarak katkı vereceğim şey ise... Anadilimin Türkçe oluşudur. Sadece 1 tane anadili Türkçe olan var. Daha fazla dil, daha fazla kullanıcıya yardım etmek demektir bence. Ek olarak aktifim ve uzlaşmacıyım. Bu yer neredeyse benim ana-vikim oldu sayılır.

Gelelim ne yapabileceğime... Dosyaları silmek, kullanıcıları engellemek için hizmetli araçları elbette lazım. Ancak kesin emin olduğum durumlar için ivedi aksiyon alacağımı veya emin değilsem tereddüt edeceğimi düşünüyorum. Bir hata yapmaktansa hiçbir şey yapmamalıyız. Ben topluluğun kararına ise kesinlikle saygı duyacağımı belirtmeliyim. Ayrıca yıllar boyu, maddelerde kullanılan ve elde etmek için çok emek verdiğim yüzlerce kendi fotolarım var ve inşallah binlerce olacak. Yeni dosyalarda çok dolaşırım, bulduğum telif haklarını hızlı silinmeye veya SAS(Deletion request)'a koyarım. Kullanıcıları uyarırım, yol gösteririm. COM:AN/U ve köy çeşmesine(village pump) bakıyorum. Ayrıca 1 yıl önce ve geçen aylar içinde lisans inceleyici ve dosya taşıyıcı oldum. Bundan dolayı telif hakkı kurallarına aşinayım. Değişikliklerimi inceleyebilirsiniz. İletişim için e-postam açıktır.

Gelelim hatalarıma... Bu projede 2021'den beri aktifim ve giderek düzenli olarak aktifliğimi artırıyorum. Bazen stres, özel hayat neticelerinde ve bazen Türkçe Vikipedi'de yaşananlardan dolayı hatalarım var. Hatta bunlardan dolayı engel yiyecektim az kalsın. Diğer vikilerle burayı karşılaştırırsam burada engellenmememin sebebi, hele onca katkıdan sonra, dil engeli ve "kirli işlerle"(bundan kastım tartışmalı konular) uğraşmamamdır. Ayrıca her hatamdan sonra bir durakladım, diğer vikilerde bunu pek yapmam. O yüzden çok katkımın olduğu yerlerde ya engellenmişimdir ya da orada hiç katkım yoktur :D. Commons bunun için bir istisna.

Hizmetli olmak istememin bir amacı şudur, gelen eleştiriler ve destekler doğrultusunda Commons'taki işimi geliştirmek. En kötü ihtimalle hatalarımı derinlemesine göreceğim, en iyi ihtimalle de kendimi bu harika projeye adamak ve işleri halletmek için vazife alacağım. Buraya kendini adamışlar aha şu dereden bir yudum su içerler ve benim o dereye girip yüzmem gerekli.

Son olarak bu başvuruyu hiçbir yerde paylaşmayacağımı sizlere tebliğ ediyorum. Buraya gelenler sadece denk gelmişler olacak.

I will answer your questions in english. Thank you.

modern_primat ^{ඞඞඞ ----TALK} 19:19, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Votes

•  Oppose I think they mean well, but I've too often seen comments from them that give me doubts about their judgement and their communication style. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 20:00, 17 October 2024

  please give example, thank you. modern_primat ^{ඞඞඞ ----TALK} 07:01, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

  The two that come to mind immediately because I was directly involved are:

  1. You completely missed the point of the discussion at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_114#Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Donald_J_Trump_(realDonaldTrump)_Twitter_-_публикация_от_2020-05-29.png and your contribution wasn't constructive.
  2. I don't think *any* of your contributions in Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/Blocks_and_protections/Archive_39#Block_review:_Dronebogus were helpful or particularly on topic.

  However, I've seen enough posts by you where I scratched my head and wondered what you were hoping to achieve, or felt you were more of a distraction than a help, that that's the lens I've come to view you through. You do perfectly good work when it's straightforward - reporting copyvios and vandals for example - but I don't trust that you'd be a net positive in discussions that are serious and nuanced. I've also got to say that your response to alachuckthebuck's question below is flippant and inadequate, which further reinforces my concerns. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

•  Neutral I concur with the above comment. I think their intentions are good but sometimes they come across as too harsh or too chill-y. I would expect a more serious tone. --Bedivere (talk) 01:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose Does not have the best attitude or judgment. Wolverine XI 03:17, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose Too many blocks in other projects --Ameisenigel (talk) 15:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Weak support We need more Turkish-speaking admins, and I really want this to succeed, I'm not going to hold the blocks against modern unless someone who can read the original block notices says otherwise. But I don't see strong evidence of the calm expected of admins at this time, per Bedivere. I will be the first to say that Modern is a net positive to the project, and I want them to succeed and take the mop. Admins aren't expected to be happy-go-lucky all the time, but they are expected to have a higher level of professionalism than the average contributor. If they improve their communication, I will happily change to a strong support. What Modern should take away here is that most of the issues we are bringing up can easily be fixed. Per comments made by Aafi at my LR request and repeated elsewhere, drama from other projects shouldn't be brought to Commons, and it doesn't have any bearing on people's suitability for the mop on Commons. The reason they were blocked might be an issue, but if that is, it will show itself in due time. All the Best -- Chuck ^Talk 17:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose I agree that Modern primat is net-positive to the project but I agree with Bedivere about their comments. I'd likely support next time if communication aspects are worked upon as pointed by others. Good Communication is an important aspect of the admin mop - and unfortunately it is missing here. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 05:23, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose Personally, my overall impressions of MP were not bad so far. However at this point I tend to agree with Aafi and Bedivere, sorry. --A.Savin 13:36, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose No issues with the user but ~14 k edits is too few contributions / too little experience. Apply again at a later point. --Prototyperspective (talk) 13:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  I don't agree with "14k edits is too few contributions/too little experience." A huge number of edits/contribs don't determine experience and definitely is not also "too few". I became an admin here with some 5.5k edits. Experience around where a user intends to contribute (if given the tools), and requisite knowledge of the areas (where they are interested in contributing) and at all the necessary communication skillset - is important aspect. We don't need to haunt people for having lesser edits than many others. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 18:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  We don't need to haunt people for having lesser edits than many others Very much agree. Prototyperspective (talk) 18:22, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

•  Oppose I don't think the attitude problem pointed out here have improved, and I'm not sure if you understand the problem. To me, you appear to do things quite lightly. And the block on trwiki makes me even more worried. While I'm not a heavy user here, I see your work in various archive pages. But this can't fully wipe off concerns above. Sorry, Tmv (talk) 15:00, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose Here’s my opinion in three points:
  1. There are concerns about the communication style and judgment, as the user's comments sometimes come across as harsh or lacking seriousness.
  2. The multiple blocks in other projects raise doubts about their suitability for a position of responsibility.
  3. Despite good intentions, the user needs to improve communication and professionalism to be qualified for this role.-- Mohammed Qays  🗣 20:16, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose I share the concerns expressed by others. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 23:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  Can you specify which concerns? All the Best -- Chuck ^Talk 23:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  oh, i remember you. you banned me from wikimedia discord!

  but, thank you all guys. i will fix issues hopefully. modern_primat ^{ඞඞඞ ----TALK} 05:17, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

•  Oppose for many factors. The user was blocked on 3 wikis(!) including two indefs, in addition to a week long block on enwiki a year ago. Also their maturity is questionable like this. Also, their oppose on Turkmen's request for license reviewer isn't convincing either. ToadetteEdit (talk) 06:40, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

   Comment That oppose has been struck after further discussion on that page. All the Best -- Chuck ^Talk 17:58, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

•  Oppose Sorry, but there have been far too many recent blocks on other wikis (including 3 indefs, 2 of which with TPA removed) for me to support you at this time. --SHB2000 (talk) 01:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  The indefinite block at azWP seems to be, because he did not follow the anti armenien behaviour there. This block I would not count. Marcus Cyron (talk) 15:21, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

•  Oppose -- as SHB2000 above me. Indefinite block at the home Wiki. No way. And at least for the request text I expect, that there is written an english text. I want to see a proof, thet the lungua franca of the project is spoken good enough. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 15:14, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Comments

• Please mention the languages you speak on your talk page with Commons:Babel templates. Thanks, Yann (talk) 20:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

  i added now. modern_primat ^{ඞඞඞ ----TALK} 05:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

•   Question by alachuckthebuck Hello Modern, Can you please explain the references to blocks on other wikis? As someone who was blocked for some time on en-wiki, that isn't an automatic decline, but why is your behavior on commons diffrent from your behavior other wikis? All the Best -- Chuck ^Talk 21:20, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

  as you can see from my LR request: Commons:License_review/Requests/Archive/2023#Modern_primat im blocked on three wikis. but im gonna only explain tr wiki here.

  but, i should say about my ban on tr wikiquote got soft ban. i can edit articles now.

  on tr wiki, it is real mess unfortunantly. my block record changed in january 24' and they say im sockpuppet... my only defence is: i didnt, never use sockpuppet. previous block on tr wiki is... you can check my LR request for more detail. modern_primat ^{ඞඞඞ ----TALK} 07:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

• Fun fact: if you let Google translate the introduction text into German, then sysop becomes servant and henchman. --A.Savin 18:44, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  oh yeah :D, hizmetli literally means servant. modern_primat ^{ඞඞඞ ----TALK} 19:31, 19 October 2024 (UTC)